|Metropolitan Archbishop John A. Bathersby of Brisbane|
However, the Catholic Archbishop of Brisbane, John Bathersby, says there is still room for progressive viewpoints in the church.
Archbishop Bathersby says he would like to know why the Vatican decided to replace Toowoomba's long-serving bishop.
He says he is saddened by the Vatican's move but it is ultimately their decision.
"This is the way that the church operates and it's just sad it's come to this," he said.
"I just wish it hadn't happened and I don't know why it happened and I would very much like to know.
"I love the church - it's as simple like that.
"Now the the church makes mistakes, has made mistakes, terrible things in the past by Popes and that, but again I still feel that I want to belong to the church."
Archbishop Bathersby says the church is still open to progressive members.
"I think that the church has those types of people, has conservatives, has got radicals at the same time, but somehow the church is able to embrace all those different people," he said."
"Archbishop Bathersby says he would like to know why the Vatican decided to replace Toowoomba's long-serving bishop."???
Perhaps His Grace is also thinking of his own Advent Pastoral in that Year of Queensland errors 2006:
In his 2006 Pastoral Letter for Advent he committed to published print some of his ideas we had heard in previous sermons or had been relayed to us third- hand. Here is the passage and beneath it, what the Church believes and teaches:
"Yet the title that includes all the others is the deceptively simple title 'Prophet of the Kingdom'. This title places Jesus in a long line of Jewish prophets who addressed the chosen people in the name of God, and often died because of their message. However, Jesus as a prophet was different from the others because he was unique.
He was the prophet par excellence, the Messiah, the long awaited messenger of God who announced the arrival of the Kingdom in Himself.
This conviction of Jesus must have developed during his comparatively short life of 33 years, when through prayer, study and action he came to realise, in a mysterious process we will never be able to understand, that, rather than being merely one of the Prophets he himself was the Messiah, the anointed one of God.
He must have realised that in himself God was not merely calling the chosen people into an ever deeper relationship as God had done with the prophets and patriarchs, but that in relating to Himself people were relating to God.
He must also have realised that relationship with Himself would save the world and change it forever.
No longer would sinfulness prevail as it had done earlier, but rather the love of God would reach out through Him not just to a few privileged people but to all people who would experience in Himself God's love and forgiveness.
It was a reckless, extravagant claim that ultimately cost Jesus his life, nevertheless this extraordinary claim was ultimately vindicated by resurrection."
"MYSTICI CORPORIS" POPE PIUS XII:
"75. Now the only begotten Son of God embraced us in His infinite knowledge and undying love even before the world began. And that He might give a visible and exceedingly beautiful expression to this love, He assumed our nature in hypostatic union: hence - as Maximus of Turin with a certain unaffected simplicity remarks - "in Christ our own flesh loves us "(156)) But the knowledge and love of Our Divine Redeemer, of which we were the object from the first moment of His Incarnation, exceed all that the human intellect can hope to grasp. For hardly was He conceived in the womb of the Mother of God, when He began to enjoy the Beatific Vision, and in that vision all the members of His Mystical Body were continually and unceasingly present to Him, and He embraced them with His redeeming love. O marvelous condescension of Divine Love for us! O inestimable dispensation of boundless charity! In the crib, on the Cross, in the unending glory of the Father, Christ has all the members of the Church present before Him and united to Him in a much clearer and more loving manner than that of a mother who clasps her child to her breast, or than that with which a man knows and loves himself." (Emphasis added.)
If we followed Archbishop Bathersby (and his Anglican guru Bishop Tom Wright of Durham, England, who he refers to and has brought to Brisbane to teach Catholics about Christ) we would hold that at some time Jesus developed His thinking along these lines:
“Gosh, I think I'm the Messiah!' (Whom the Jews of that time expected to be a military and political leader.) Then, “Hey, I reckon all the Jews should come to God through me". Then, “well, golly, I believe I am God."
This marvelous bit of self discovery would logically involve either:
(a) Jesus having become God somewhere in the process, or
(b) Having been God incarnate from the instant of His Conception, but not knowing it - God, but He didn't know it!
Since we know that the Church has always taught that Jesus was God Incarnate from the moment of His Conception (“" and the Word became flesh”) His Grace was advancing the latter absurd proposition. He should not be surprised that we prefer to stay with Pope Pius XII .
Plainly, Archbishop Bathersby's "like to know" is an evasion, and one indicative of more extensive problems.
Ah Well, only 11 more weeks to go until that 75th Birthday!